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-sixth of the economy in order to be able to gain control of our lives, and of course it's going to be a mess. what does the government do that is good when it starts interfering with our lives? there are functions for the government. they need to remember what those things are and leave the rest of us alone. >> neil: what they discovered, as you warned -- this is prior to your prayer breakfast meet and greet with the president -- that all of a sudden the goodies would be showcased up front. the problems would be later. the goodies were fewer, the problems many more, and the cost of this potentially much, much hire than the thought. how is all of this rolling out now? >> well, of course the reason that it was done in secret, rather than in a transparent manner in which it was supposed to have been done, is because there are so many bad parts of it. there's so many obligations so many new taxes associated with it. it's incredibly expense simple. it was supposed to lower the cost. it has raised the cost of the premiums for average family, and in the neighborhood of $5,000. this is a disaster. and the real
that oil is going to be part of this economy for generations to come. we need that oil. the fact is the keystone xl pipeline which is project we've been working on a number of years will help increase our domestic production of oil from a safe and secure neighbor and it will help us to create jobs on that during the construction which is very important. >> neil: so from your vantage pointed and when you hear from environmentalist friends loyal to the president, he is going to do this and they are not going to forget about it. if he goes ahead and wants to complete the pipeline, do you think that will cause serious problems for the president? >> i don't know how many problems it will cause. the fact of the matter is, the studies have looked at this pipeline that have been conducted -- there have been many of them -- have been done thoroughly point to the fact that much of the rhetoric that the environmentalists of using doesn't pan out. so if he is going to make a decision on the record, the record supports building this pipeline. it's not all the vitriole doesn't pan out in the s
more money that guess out of the economy and doesn't have an impact. more importantly, though, it's still sold the same way. still taxing the rich corporations and rich americans who have unfair advantages. so it leaves the door open to another sort of tax the next go-around. i didn't think -- >> neil: i thought that was off the table. >> after you get $41 in tax hikes with one dollar in tax cuts. >> there is the argument that you have the ryan plan, the murray plan, maybe have two sides that could broach some differences but i see some chasm >> but it's a more hopeful tone on both parties. the democrats say now that, yes, we must have tax hikes, or tax something -- tax revenue, and we must have spending cuts. and that's unusual -- >> neil: but they're quicker at identifying the tax hikes than the spending cuts, and when it comes to republicans, what they offer on spending cuts of their own, don't address defense. although paul ryan has entertained caps. >> people watching the show should realize our deficits grow in both plans, and ryan's plan is for progrowth. but both sides oka
country of argentina legalized contraception and he raged. the fast booming economy left wealth in the hands of a few top government officials and he roared. this man who has taken the name of the quiet preacher known more for be friending animals and living a life of poverty, now at the epicenter of the catholic church. from amy kellogg on what has to be one of the most shocking decisions we've seen out of rome in centuries. what do you make of this? >> you have learned more about pope francis than i've managed to, to bravo. most of us were taken by surprise. we thought if white smoke came tonight, it would probably be angelo scola, the archbishop of milan. this was a surprise to many. to those believing the speculation and the wagering. but so many profound messages are coming out of st. peter's this evening. the first latin american pope. someone with such obvious humility and someone who has it such experience dealing with politics and having political sensibilities. there's really such a jubilant mood, as much as maybe many italians would have like to have seen another ital
. >> yeah. neil, look. i'm a data guy. we all know the bad numbers out of the economy in the last couple quarters, being run over by some of these media folks -- look no further than the unemployment rate which is a fancy way of saying all the people that are either parttimers that want fulltime, or all the people that have just been so discouraged, they have given up looking for work. the number is over 14%. so while the unmomentum rate is celebrated at a post recession low, we're still about mid-teens for unemployment as a real term. >> neil: let me ask you this. when so many states are seeing for some a sudden uptick in the up employment rate,ings to that trigger or pop up in the national numbers or is there a lag effect? what do you see? >> well, there's certainly a lag effect to some degree because there are different economic factors going on in different states. we talk about this before. all the fracking has poshed then unemployment rates in dakotas, but at it gone up, especially in states next door. but for anybody to sit here and tell you that fundamentals are changing as a who
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